Building Better Silos(做了个好点的“黑洞”)
Mike Loukides
2008/04/10
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It's been good to watch the use of OpenID spread. It's great to see that ma.gnolia.com has dropped “traditional login” in favor of OpenID. And I was encouraged to read about Yahoo's support of OpenID. Granted, it took me a while to get around to trying it. But when I got around to trying it, Yahoo!ID was a disappointment. The promise of OpenID is to return ownership of ID to the users, and to eliminate identity silos, in which the big sites compete to own your identity and your data. If that's the goal, Yahoo!ID may not be a step backwards, but it's certainly not much of a step forwards. Although Yahoo is talking the talk, it's still playing the same game. Today, I went to Yahoo to try to use my OpenID URL (from myOpenID). And I couldn't. I kept being asked if I wanted to create a new Yahoo!ID account. That's precisely what I did not want to do. If I have to create a Yahoo OpenID for Yahoo sites, but that ID is different from the OpenID I already use for Ma.gnolia and other OpenID sites, what's the advantage? I could give in, create a Yahoo! OpenID and use it everywhere–but isn't that just giving in to the problem that OpenID was trying to solve? I don't want Yahoo! to be the data silo that owns my identity, any more than I want ma.gnolia or del.icio.us or twitter or Get Satisfaction or… you get the idea. Google support for OpenID would be nice, but if they implemented GoogleID and didn't accept IDs from Yahoo or any other ID-issuing organizations, we'd be right back where we started. Yahoo's OpenID press release is dated January 17th. Internet time flows quickly. I could perhaps pardon a “yahoo-only not-quite-open ID” in a beta release, though not an “eternal beta”. But I still wonder–what's the deal? Three months is plenty of time to accept a standard that you already support. OpenID is important because it places control back in the users' hands. A net where we didn't have dozens of accounts and passwords to remember is something we all want to see. But we won't get there by building even bigger and better identity silos. “We support OpenID–you can use our OpenIDs anywhere. But don't try using anyone else's here” just isn't an acceptable position. |
看到OpenID传播开来，看到ma.gnolia.com为OpenID放弃了“传统的登录方式”，我也被鼓舞着读了一些Yahoo对OpenID支持的资料。着实花了一些时间来尝试一下。 试过之后Yahoo!ID让人失望。OpenID的目标是把ID的所有权还给用户并且消灭那些网络巨人们用以瓜分用户信息和数据的“身份黑洞”。如果用这个目标来衡量Yahoo!ID不是一种倒退但也绝对不是什么前进。 尽管Yahoo振振有词它实际上还是换汤不换药。今天我去Yahoo试着用我的OpenID URL（myOpenID的），结果不行。我不断地被提示要不要注册个新的Yahoo!ID帐号。 这绝不是我想要的。如果我一定要注册个Yahoo网站的Yahoo OpenID——它跟我在Ma.gnolia以及其他OpenID网站已经用的OpenID还不一样，那有什么用？我可以妥协——注册一个Yahoo!OpenID到处用——但是这难道不就是向OpenID要解决的问题妥协吗？我不希望Yahoo!变成个掌握比ma.gnolia、del.icio.us、twitter、Get Satisfaction更多我的信息的数据黑洞。Google对OpenID的支持应该非常好，但是如果Google也搞一个GoogleID然后不接受Yahoo或者其他ID发放组织的ID，最后还不是一场空。 Yahoo的OpenID发布是１月17日。Internet上日月如梭，我也许能原谅测试阶段的这个“Yahoo不完全Open ID”，但不能永远测试。我一直在想问题在哪里？三个月时间足够让他们接受他们支持的标准了。 OpenID把控制权还给了用户所以很重要。我们都希望见到一个每个人不再需要无数账户密码的网络世界。但是这样构建再大再好的身份黑洞我们也得不到那样一个网络。“我们支持OpenID——你可以到处用我们的OpenID但别在我这里用别人的”这不是一个可接受的姿态。 |
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